Posts by days of future passed

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Fasten Your Seatbelts - The Crazy Has Started (Also, bring the Koolaid)

by berrygerry in

from facebook:just saw my jw mother after not seeing her for more than 2 years.

when i do see her, it is brief, she never asks about my life, doesn't ask about my 4 children her grandchildren, doesn't ask about my grandchildren...her great grandchildren, she doesn't ask about my other 2 brothers that she is also alienated from, she doesn't ask about my brothers family.

she doesn't talk about the jw/org either.

days of future passed

It could be just your mom's particular hall that is ramping it up. In the hall I grew up in, they were very attentive to any change or announcement from the Wt. Maybe 7 or so years ago, (I can't remember exactly what was said) the society made a change. The elders in the hall, from the podium, made comments that made it seem Arrmegeddon would happen in a month or two. One elder who had bought a house in a foreign country, said he doubted he would be able to live in it for more than 2 weeks before A happened. One elder shouted out from the audience "Come Lord Jesus, Come!" Bible studies at the hall, were freaking out. One young man was almost in tears because he wasn't baptized. Freaked me out to.

For weeks after, talks were given that had that "it's almost here, what are you doing in your life?" flavor. One brother (I could have killed him for doing this) pretended to read a letter from the WT saying that this was the last time they could probably talk to the congregation cause the tribulation was starting. Dead silence in the hall. Then he admitted that it wasn't real, but what if it was?

I thought this was what all the other halls did. My sister later told me, no, nothing with such urgency was discussed in her hall. She couldn't figure out what I was talking about.

So maybe your mom has an uber hall, or one where the elders like to nip at the heels of everyone to keep them coming to the hall.

It probably makes her feel like all those years mean something and she is in the know.

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Do they even realise how disgustingly immoral this is and how badly it reflects on the God they worship?

by doubtfull1799 in

found this little gem when going through the daily texts.... so let me get this straight.... god knows your suffering really badly and wants to help.

he knows you feel like you're at your limit, but he also knows that you are not really - that you can handle some more suffering.

so instead of helping, he "patiently" waits till you are at your absolute limit, and only then does he help!?.

days of future passed

That text reminds me of a Watchtower cover someone just posted recently. It had a starving African child on the front that was little more than skin and bones. The heading? Why is God patient - or something to that effect. In this case, the child's suffering isn't enough for God to act on I guess. Just a little more starving ......

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"Slaving For Jehovah Is Great, Because Your Life Won't Go Wrong." Sigh...

by Sorry in

granted, i'm a pimo status, so i normally just play on my cell phone and ignore everything during meetings and assemblies.

but at the assembly this past weekend, my ears were pricked for two experiences of two sisters dedicating themselves to pioneering.

this was probably because i was extremely freaked out by both of them.

days of future passed

So if they are total slaves, who is paying for their rent and food? Not "The Master"

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Reveal News Article: Jehovah’s Witnesses double down on Scripture used to ignore abuse by Trey Bundy

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-double-down-on-scripture-used-to-ignore-abuse/.

jehovah’s witnesses double down on scripture used to ignore abuse.

by trey bundy / november 9, 2017. gary breaux, a senior jehovah's witness official, speaks on the religion’s official internet video channel.

days of future passed

The broadcast by the WT concerning the 2 witness rule, was for reassurance - for the child molesters that is.

Imagine a jewelry store that stated if only one employee saw another employee steal jewelry and that person didn't confess, nothing was to be done. No police or anything. Since they didn't have video cameras, there wouldn't be any proof and nothing could be done.

Imagine advertising that fact to each new employee.

The WT is advertising the very same thing. Nothing will be done to child molesters unless they confess or someone happens to catch them at it. No worries for the molester unless they are incredibly stupid.

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Understanding Armageddon

by Jayk in

so will armageddon be the biblical one we read about or is it probably going to be a government ban on christians that we will perceive as armageddon?

days of future passed

Although I don't believe the prophecies in the bible are true, in Daniel and in Revelation, it is true religion that is attacked first.
Daniel says "truth is thrown to the ground - dashing of the power of the holy ones to pieces etc" these holy ones are the "two witnesses" that are in Revelation 11:7. When they are killed, who is looking at them? Nations of all people. If you were to ask anyone (even witnesses) what outstanding things happened in the 19th century, this event would never be mentioned. Such an amazing event according to the bible, that it is supposed to be a big witness before the end - and no one knows about it.....

WT says that happened in 1916-1919 when they got thrown in jail. Except if you look at Rev. 11:7 it's the beast that ascends out the abyss that attacks them. And what is the only beast that ascends out of an abyss? The United Nations that was reactivated long time after 1919 according to WT.

They know they have it wrong but can't do anything about it but hopes no one notices or has time to research it. So don't bother about Armaggedon according to WT or the Bible for that matter.

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Im new to the site. 28 years old, over 10 in exile. This is my story

by Jayk in

it's bitter sweet to find a site like this..i was born in the truth.

when i was 16 i given the option to stop going.

father and mothers family are both witnesses.

days of future passed

When you are born in the "truth" it can be hard to find a direction to go in when you leave that part of your life behind. Harder when you are older, at least for me. It's nice you are still young, so hang in there!

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Biblical incidents that bothered me.

by EverApostate in

i wanted to discuss the (supposed) biblical events that disturbed me a lot when i was a jw.

these incidents were just read and discussed in the kingdom hall as if these are normal and justified, which clearly weren't.

perhaps this led to my awakening.

days of future passed

The man that went to retrieve his concubine and then saved himself by giving her over to be gang raped by the Benjaminites.

Then he was miffed that she died because of it. Such a loss of property! Then he cut her up and sent the pieces to the other tribes to show how much he was upset over it.

They showed their righteous indignation over it and killed most the Benjaminites. Oh yeah, their domestic animals too. Women don't get mentioned but they must have been killed too because the few remaining Benjaminites, didn't have any women to marry.

So because one group didn't swear not to give any of their daughters to the benjaminites, their unfortunate daughters were kidnapped by the leftover benjaminites who didn't mind gang raping women.

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What would you do for next November 5?

by Faded in

jw
friends

i think everything has to start somewhere, and you can see the passion and commitment from those loyal 50 that showed up in warwick yesterday.

the event was not very well organized but you could see the passion & dedication from most of them.

and i think they at least touched a couple of people at the kh yesterday.. having an annual day of action actually inspires me.

days of future passed

I think on this site I saw pictures posted of a protest done in New York. Maybe in the fifthties? In coats and sandwich boards. I never knew about it although I remember at the big assemblies years ago, big signs and banners from the "apostates"

Those in the sandwich boards must have felt like they may have been shouting down a hole. I mean, who would believe them? They hoped someone would. But they did what they could.

I'm the same as thebrokenkite in thinking that the protest could have been better. But then, I didn't fly to New York or protest. They did what they could. They did go around the area and leave pamphlets telling the neighbors of Warwick, what the Jw's were all about. That alone will help to keep others from falling into the trap. And my sister said, that it was therapy for most of them. That's a good thing right?

It sounds like thebrokenkite wants to volunteer for the job of organizing. Go for it!

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Picture in latest Watchtower . . . What is it?

by neat blue dog in

in this picture from the latest watchtower, what in the world is the guy watching on the left side of the picture??

it looks like a female vampire holding a lightsaber.

am i missing something?.

days of future passed

Ha Ha - They made the left blue to be cold and unfriendly and the right, warm and friendly. It's all in the colors.

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JW leadership hypocrisy 1975

by Half banana in

it is felt that there is one law for the rich and another for the little people who are made to toe the line.

money equals power and it is a sad historical fact of humanity that where there is power there is abuse.. andersoninfo a few days ago produced the facts here that in 1975 the watchtower had spent nearly 2 million dollars to buy the neo baroque building in new york known as the towers.

when they sold it recently for 200 million dollars they made a profit of more than 10,000%.

days of future passed

I have been giving this subject some thought recently because of parents becoming old and possibly donating money to the WT.

Because my mother grew up poor, she is a penny pincher. I would like the buying of property in New York (more expensive than in other places) and the selling of the properties for millions - to get her thinking that they have more than enough money and don't need hers. But as Drearyweather said, they see it as a positive. I tried it on a "friend" and that was their response.

For me, a much more simple illustration in the here and now for my mom, showing the hypocrisy is - the poor little old sister who has very little in her fridge and is encouraged to drop everything she has in the contribution box. (picture and story in the Wt) And then say, "and yet, when you see the GB on the screen, most of them are obese. Are they missing any meals or going hungry? No they aren't. They are eating from what that starving poor sister put in."

That is the theme of the WT. I wish I could remember what study article it was or book, but some "leader" encouraged the bros and sisters to make sure they eat a sandwich while out peddling books. It was supposed to show how much they "loved and considered" the other sheep. But in reality, there was Beth Sarim. Millions of dollars in real estate and free labor - brothers and sisters tortured in mallawi and no help from the WT. Warwick - brothers and sisters keep your lives simple. The list goes on....